Legislature(2017 - 2018)BUTROVICH 205

05/13/2017 09:00 AM Senate RULES

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09:02:06 AM Start
09:02:46 AM HB16
09:25:25 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 16 DRIV. LICENSE REQ;DISABILITY:ID &TRAINING TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HB 16(RLS) Out of Committee
        HB  16-DRIV. LICENSE REQ;DISABILITY:ID &TRAINING                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:02:46 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MEYER  announced  the  consideration of  HB  16.  [SCS  HB
16(FIN)  was before  the committee.]  He  asked for  a motion  to                                                               
adopt the Senate Rules committee substitute (CS).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKINNON  moved to  adopt SCS HB  16 (RLS),  version 30-                                                               
LS0194\O, as the working document.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER objected for an explanation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:03:26 AM                                                                                                                    
SUZANNE CUNNINGHAM, staff  to Senator Meyer and  the Senate Rules                                                               
Committee,  Alaska State  Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  reviewed                                                               
the following  sectional analysis  and explanation of  changes in                                                               
SCS HB 16(RLS):                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 1: Intent language that provides that the State of                                                                      
      Alaska should continue efforts to amend the REAL ID                                                                       
     Act to protect the privacy of Alaskans.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 2: Amends AS 18.65.220 to include statutory                                                                             
     language  that   expands  the  duties  of   the  police                                                                    
     standards   council's  training   program  to   include                                                                    
     training in  recognizing and interacting with  a person                                                                    
     with  disabilities,  as  well as  familiarization  with                                                                    
     resources  that  are  available to  those  with  hidden                                                                    
     disabilities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CUNNINGHAM noted that this section was in the original                                                                      
     version of HB 16.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 3: Amends 18.65.310(a) to set the fee for REAL ID                                                                       
     compliant identification cards at $20.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 4: Amends 18.65.310(b) to require an application                                                                        
     for an identification card to  include a provision that                                                                    
     the  applicant  understands  the  options  between  the                                                                    
     identification  card types  and  what type  of card  is                                                                    
     being selected.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:05:19 AM                                                                                                                    
Section 5: Adds new subsections to 18.65.310:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     (m) Provides  that a  person may  voluntarily designate                                                                    
     on their state identification  card that the person has                                                                    
     a  disability and  what proof  the individual  needs to                                                                    
     provide to receive the designation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CUNNINGHAM noted that this subsection was in the                                                                            
     original version of HB 16.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     (n)  Requires the  department to  adopt regulations  to                                                                    
     issue  federally  compliant  identification  cards  and                                                                    
     requires  an applicant  for an  identification card  to                                                                    
     specifically choose one. Limits  the documents that can                                                                    
     be copied/scanned  and retained to the  minimum of what                                                                    
     is  required  by REAL  ID  and  codifies the  retention                                                                    
     period of 15 years, which  matches what is currently in                                                                    
     regulation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     (o)  Requires  the  state to  continue  to  offer  non-                                                                    
     compliant   identification   cards  and   requires   an                                                                    
     applicant to specifically  choose a federally compliant                                                                    
     identification   card.  Prohibits   the   State  or   a                                                                    
     municipality  from   requiring  a   person  to   get  a                                                                    
     federally  compliant  identification card,  but  allows                                                                    
     for an  exception when the  State or a  municipality is                                                                    
     acting as  an employer and  the job duties  require use                                                                    
     of a compliant identification card.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     For  non-compliant  identification   cards,  it  limits                                                                    
     retention  of  facial  images to  15  years,  prohibits                                                                    
     retention  if   a  card  is  not   issued,  and  limits                                                                    
     retention  of verification  documents to  a year  after                                                                    
     the expiration date of the license.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (p) Allows  the department  to issue  an identification                                                                    
     card with  a validity  of less than  eight years  if it                                                                    
     matches the  amount of  time that  a person  is legally                                                                    
     authorized to be in the  country. Allows the department                                                                    
     more  discretion with  the expiration  date for  a card                                                                    
     when   the  authorized   stay  of   an  individual   is                                                                    
     indeterminate  - provides  that an  identification card                                                                    
     to be valid "up to eight years."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Provides  when an  identification card  can be  renewed                                                                    
     and  guidelines   for  renewal  by  mail   or  via  the                                                                    
     department's website.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     (q) Requires the department to  provide the public with                                                                    
     information  about  the   differences  between  current                                                                    
     cards  (non-compliant) and  federally compliant  cards,                                                                    
     including  what  a federally  compliant  identification                                                                    
     card  is   required  for  and  what   alternatives  are                                                                    
     available.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     (r) Provides a definition  of "identification card that                                                                    
     is federally compliant"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 6: Amends AS 18.65.670(c) to include disability                                                                         
     training to village public safety officers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CUNNINGHAM noted that this was an original provision of                                                                     
     HB 16.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 7: Amends AS 28.05.011 by adding a new subsection                                                                       
     that  provides  that  if  the  department  publishes  a                                                                    
     manual related to safe and  lawful operation of a motor                                                                    
     vehicle,  the  manual  must   include  the  rights  and                                                                    
     responsibilities of drivers  when encountering or being                                                                    
     stopped by an officer.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CUNNINGHAM noted that this was an original provision of                                                                     
     HB 16.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 8: Adds new subsections to 28.05.068:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     (a)  Provides that  if data is being  shared with other                                                                    
          entities to comply with the REAL ID Act, limits                                                                       
          that data to what is required.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (b) -  (e): Adds  language relating  to the  sending of                                                                    
     social   security  numbers   to   other  entities   for                                                                    
     verification  that  a  person  who is  applying  for  a                                                                    
     driver's  license is  not already  licensed in  another                                                                    
     state.   The language  requires the department  to take                                                                    
     "all steps  necessary" to eliminate  the use  of social                                                                    
     security numbers,  or otherwise minimize the  number of                                                                    
     digits  of  a social  security  number  required to  be                                                                    
     stored or shared.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     (f) Requires  an annual report  of the efforts  made in                                                                    
     (b) - (e); this section  is repealed in 2021 by section                                                                    
     18 of this bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 9: Adds new subsections to 28.15.041, relating to                                                                       
     the  issuance  of  driver's  licenses,  to  mirror  the                                                                    
     provisions in section 5 of  the bill for identification                                                                    
     cards.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     (d)  Requires the  department to  adopt regulations  to                                                                    
     issue  federally compliant  driver's licenses.   Limits                                                                    
     the documents  that can be copied/scanned  and retained                                                                    
     to  the minimum  of what  is  required by  REAL ID  and                                                                    
     codifies  the  retention  period  of  15  years,  which                                                                    
     matches what is currently in regulation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     (e)  Requires  the  state to  continue  to  offer  non-                                                                    
     compliant   licenses.     Requires   an  applicant   to                                                                    
     specifically  choose  a  federally  compliant  license.                                                                    
     Prohibits the State or a  municipality from requiring a                                                                    
     person  to  get  a  federally  compliant  license,  but                                                                    
     allows   for  an   exception  when   the  State   or  a                                                                    
     municipality  is  acting as  an  employer  and the  job                                                                    
     duties require use of a compliant license.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     For  a non-compliant  license, it  limits retention  of                                                                    
     facial  images to  15 years,  prohibits retention  if a                                                                    
     license  is   not  issued,  and  limits   retention  of                                                                    
     verification documents  to a year after  the expiration                                                                    
     date of the license.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     (f) Requires the department to  provide the public with                                                                    
     information  about  the   differences  between  current                                                                    
     driver's   licenses   (non-compliant)   and   federally                                                                    
     compliant   licenses,   including  what   a   federally                                                                    
     compliant identification card is  required for and what                                                                    
     alternatives are available.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:11:04 AM                                                                                                                    
Section 10: Adds a new subsection to 28.15.061(b) that                                                                          
     mirrors  the  language   for  identification  cards  in                                                                    
     Section 4. Requires that an  application for a driver's                                                                    
     license  includes   a  provision  that   the  applicant                                                                    
     understands  the options  between the  driver's license                                                                    
     types and what type of license is being selected.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 11:  Amends 28.15.101 (a) to extend the validity of                                                                     
     a  driver's license  to eight  years (from  the current                                                                    
     five).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 12: Amends 28.15.101 (d), similar to the provisions                                                                     
     in Section  5, subsection  (o) of  this bill,  to allow                                                                    
     the  department  to issue  a  driver's  license with  a                                                                    
     validity of  less than  eight years  if it  matches the                                                                    
     amount of time  that a person is  legally authorized to                                                                    
     be in the country and  also repeals language allowing a                                                                    
     person to renew  their license for free  if the license                                                                    
     was valid for less than the maximum.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Allows   the  department   some  discretion   with  the                                                                    
     expiration date for a license  when the authorized stay                                                                    
     of an  individual is indeterminate  - provides  that an                                                                    
     identification card to be valid "up to eight years."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section 13: Amends 28.15.111(a) to update the security                                                                          
     requirements   of  cards   to   the  highest   security                                                                    
     standards available.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:12:27 AM                                                                                                                    
Section 14: Amends AS 28.15.111 by adding new subsections:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CUNNINGHAM noted that these new subsections were                                                                            
     contained in the original HB 16.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (d)  Provides that  a person  may voluntarily  select a                                                                    
     disability designation on  their driver's license. This                                                                    
     subsection also establishes the  proof required for the                                                                    
     designation and fees that may be charged.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     (e)  Provides that  the department  may  not engage  in                                                                    
     bulk  sharing  of  facial images  captured  during  the                                                                    
     application process  for driver's licenses  (other than                                                                    
     commercial  driver's  licenses) with  entities  outside                                                                    
     the state; and requires a commercial driver's license                                                                      
     to be federally compliant.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 15:  Amends 28.15.271(b) to  charge a $20 fee  for a                                                                    
     driver's license that is federally compliant.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Section  16: Adds  a new  subsection to  AS 28.90.990(a)  to                                                                    
     define "driver's license that is federally compliant"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section  17: Repeals  AS 44.99.040(a)(2),  the statute  that                                                                    
     prohibits use of assets to implement the REAL ID Act.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section  18:   Repeals  AS  28.05.068(f)  -   the  reporting                                                                    
     requirement added by section 5 of this bill - on June                                                                      
     30, 2021.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section 19:  Transitional Provisions: Allows  the Department                                                                    
      of Administration to adopt regulations to implement                                                                       
     this Act.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Section  20:  Immediate  effective   dates  for  Section  17                                                                    
     (repeal) and Section 19 (authority for regulations).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:14:01 AM                                                                                                                    
Section  21:  Effective date  of  January  1, 2019  for  the                                                                    
     remainder of the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:14:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MEYER advised  that the new CS merges SB  34 (REAL ID) with                                                               
HB 16.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  removed  his  objection,  and  asked  if  there  was  further                                                               
objection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER objected for discussion purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER renewed his objection.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER said both bills  have been fully vetted. He explained                                                               
that the reason for  merging them is that SB 34  is a priority of                                                               
the Governor's and is under a tight deadline for passage.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:49 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER said  the concern  some Alaskans  have with  the                                                               
REAL ID Act is the sharing of  data. She asked if the bill allows                                                               
identifying data from a non-compliant  state ID card to be shared                                                               
with any  entity outside the  state. She  specifically referenced                                                               
Section 5 and [paragraph (2)] on page 8, line 25.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CUNNINGHAM  said  she doesn't  believe  the  information  is                                                               
shared, but  she'd like a representative  from the administration                                                               
to confirm her answer.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MARLA  THOMPSON,  Director,  Division of  Motor  Vehicles  (DMV),                                                               
Department of Administration  (DOA), Anchorage, Alaska, explained                                                               
that DMV checks to make sure  an applicant for a driver's license                                                               
isn't  licensed  in  another   jurisdiction.  This  mandate  also                                                               
applies  to a  non-compliant  driver's license.  "We don't  share                                                               
information   unless  there's   a  match   and  we   don't  share                                                               
information in bulk," she said.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:18:37 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER  asked  if her  personal  information  would  be                                                               
shared with  entities outside Alaska  if she got  a non-compliant                                                               
driver's license.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  THOMPSON answered  no,  but if  you  use that  non-compliant                                                               
license as identification to get  a license in another state, the                                                               
Alaska  DMV  would  be  notified  and  would  cancel  the  Alaska                                                               
license.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   GARDNER  referenced   the  existing   language  in   AS                                                               
18.65.310(a) in Section 3. She said  that she got a state ID card                                                               
this year  when she replaced  her driver's license. She  found it                                                               
curious that the ID card is the  same color as the license and it                                                               
doesn't clearly state that it's for ID purposes only.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. THOMPSON said she would follow up with an explanation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER noted  that Captain Dan Lowden with  the Alaska State                                                               
Troopers was available to answer questions.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:19:28 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  suggested the Rules Committee  get the document                                                               
that  the Department  of Administration  provided  to the  Senate                                                               
Finance Committee.  "It clarifies  the way  things are  today and                                                               
the things  that don't  change with  a regular  compliant license                                                               
and then  what is shared."  He said he  found the document  to be                                                               
very helpful.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER referenced Section  18 that repeals the reporting                                                               
requirements  of REAL  ID. She  surmised that  the mandate  for a                                                               
report  is  being  repealed  because   [by  June  30,  2021]  "we                                                               
anticipate  we've  either  thrown  in   the  towel  of  had  some                                                               
success."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:00 AM                                                                                                                    
LESLIE RIDLE,  Deputy Commissioner, Department  of Administration                                                               
(DOA), Juneau,  Alaska, said the  committee wanted DOA  to report                                                               
on  its  efforts,  but  not  in perpetuity.  The  hope  was  that                                                               
Congress would have changed the law by 2021.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. CUNNINGHAM reviewed the five fiscal notes for HB 16.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Fiscal  Note Number  3 from  the Department  of Public  Safety is                                                               
zero.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Fiscal  Note  Number  4  from   the  Department  of  Corrections,                                                               
Population Management is zero.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Fiscal  Note 5  from  the Department  of  Military and  Veterans'                                                               
Affairs,  Military and  Veterans' Affairs  Homeland Security  and                                                               
Emergency Management is zero. This  new fiscal note is similar to                                                               
one adopted  by the Senate  Finance Committee  for SB 34.  It was                                                               
rewritten to accompany HB 16.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Fiscal Note  6 from  the Department  of Public  Safety, Statewide                                                               
Support Commissioner's  Office is zero.  This new fiscal  note is                                                               
similar to  one adopted  by the Senate  Finance Committee  for SB
34. It was rewritten to accompany HB 16.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Fiscal Note 7 from the  Department of Administration, Division of                                                               
Motor  Vehicles   outlines  the   out-year  cost   estimates  for                                                               
expenditures and revenues that will  be generated by issuing REAL                                                               
ID  cards  and  licenses.  It also  notes  the  estimated  FY2018                                                               
capital costs. This new fiscal note  is similar to one adopted by                                                               
the  Senate Finance  Committee for  SB  34. It  was rewritten  to                                                               
accompany HB  16. The legislative  liaison for the  Department of                                                               
Administration reviewed the  content of this fiscal  note for the                                                               
Senate Finance Committee yesterday.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MEYER  noted  that  the Co-Chair  of  the  Senate  Finance                                                               
Committee  was on  the Rules  Committee and  available to  answer                                                               
questions about the fiscal note.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MEYER  removed his  objection  to  adopting the  committee                                                               
substitute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:24:35 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GARDNER removed her objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER found no further questions or objection and                                                                         
solicited a motion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKINNON moved to report SCS HB 16(RLS), version 30-                                                                   
LS0194\O, from committee with individual recommendations and                                                                    
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MEYER announced that without objection, SCS HB 16(RLS)                                                                    
moved from the Senate Rules Standing Committee.                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB0016C.PDF SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB0016-3-2-012717-DPS-N.PDF SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB0016-4-2-032717-COR-N.PDF SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB016.Commissioner_Fisher_Correspondence.pdf SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB016.LS0194O.05122017.pdf SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB016RULES.DMVA.DHSEM.pdf SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB016RULES.DOA.DMV.pdf SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB016RULES.DPS.COMM.pdf SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16
HB016RULES.EXPLANATION OF CHANGES.05132017.pdf SRLS 5/13/2017 9:00:00 AM
HB 16